Why do Americans blindly rust the Government and the Media? Why don't they investigate 9/11 for themselves??
if they wanted you to believe 2+2=5, you probably would.They want you to
believe that 19 hijackers with box cutters were able to demolish three
buildings.6 of whom are still alive!they want you to think that steel
melts at temperatures that regular fires burn at.They want you to think
that the muslims were able to suspend the laws of physics!Why do you
listen to these people, especially when they have a record of lying in the
past!l am not a conspiracy theorist.l am just a regular american who sees the holes in the official story. Why do you think the war on terror is being fought seriously, while the borders are wide open? There are lots of good documentaries out there so that you do not have to do anything by yourself.read other people is research. watch ''9/11 mysteries: demolitions'' or ''terrorstorm'' or ''loose change'' or ''america: from freedom to fascism'' or ''911: the road to tyranny'' all of which are available onvideo. search the bbc website for hijackers still alive or look it up on .They have been interviewed, still alive! that popular mechanics piece does not even address the most important questions of 9/11.They take some straw man theories and debunk them.they also do not even footnote any of their statements, something that many conspiracy theorists do. l am not theorizing exactly who was conspiring, l just know it would take people that have access to the world trade center to plant explosives.Marvin Bush was running security on the World trade center complex. And he would not let bomb sniffing dogs in for two weeks before 9/11, after the wtc was shut down for''electrical maintenance'' Building 7 was not hit by a plane and it collapsed, perfectly into its own footprint, exactly like a demolition. the osama bin laden confession video was not real.Look that up ontoo.It was obviously not bin laden.In fact, bin laden denied involvement in the attacks.Bin laden was a CIA asset, codenamed Tim Osman.Look that up too. Bin laden was also reported to have been visited in the hospital during the summer before 9/11 by a cia agent. i know what a conspiracy theory is.l do not know ehat happened on 9/11 l just know l have looked at lots of evidence that suggests the government is lying.l demand that we RE INVESTIGATE 9/11. thousands of things.The towers could not fall in 10 seconds without the help of explosives.it should have taken 85 seconds or so to fall, taking the resistance it would encounter into the equation. But l am talking about building 7.Building 7 was not hit by a plane!how do you explain that?the 9/11 commission did not explain that! you are wrong!they are the exact people that supposedly hijacked the planes.There is not a shred of evidence that puts those terrorists on the airplanes.How come the FBl has not changed their story, if the people that hijacked the planes were using someone else is ID?how come FBl would not put their real names?Look, man, the official theory is much less possible than a theory that involves the government in the attacks.It is all very very fishy.If we would have been allowed to investigate 9/11 properly in the first place, we would have much more evidence. We know that Bush and Cheney, early on, approached the leaders of the House and Senate and urged them not to investigate the pre-9/11 activities of the Administration.We know that the Bush Administration has stonewalled and delayed turning over essential information to the 9/11 Committee. At the very least the administration had prior knowledge, but explosives were definitely used to bring those three buildings down. If they were not the ones who hijacked the planes, who were the real hijackers?this story came out a long time ago, and they still have not found out the real identity of the hijackers?please.Give me a phucking break. Ball for you,l really wish that it was not an inside job.l do not want the government to do things like this!it took me a very long time to accept the fact that they must have been involved.If the official story could be proven, or the theory that the government was involved was dis proven, l would be very relieved. l am not leaving anything out or distorting truth.Neither are the people that made the documentaries.they are genuine americans with genuine concerns about the criminals behind the scenes in the government.Very brave people.please do not accuse me of intentionally distorting the truth, because l am not a liar. BTW nobody takes the missile theories seriously.That was a rumor that was actually started by donald rumsfeld.Also, Cheney never ordered any planes shot down.NORAD was told to stand down.The truth is we do not know what happened to flight 93. l would really like to get the data from the cockpit voice recorder, but it is being held away from the public, just like the rest of them. ''Here we're talking about plastic knives, and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building, and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center.'' - Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, in an interview with Parade Magazine on October 12, 2001, from inside the Pentagon. HE STARTED THAT RUMOR!!!it sounds ridiculous! thats why a lot of people hear that and think thats impossible or thats crazy. It was definitely a plane that hit the pentagon, and planes that hit the twin towers, and no planes hit Building 7. Some debris fell on building 7, and the building did not even catch on fire until later in the day!it was a small fire.Be honest, l am being honest with you! these things that you are talking about are not even the major issues of 9/11, or you are getting the theories wrong.You take the most ridiculous sounding theories and refute them.Like l said, l do not know what happened to flight 93.thats not as important as building 7 and the twin towers which were obviously demolished. l am curious, ballforyou, can you try and debunk all of the put options that were put on American Airlines and United Airlines?And what about all of the insider trading that was going on in building 7 before it fell?do not tell me the hijackers made those put options! For those of you that do not know: a put option is basically a bet that the stock is going to crash. * Huge surges in purchases of put options on stocks of the two airlines used in the attack -- United Airlines and American Airlines * Surges in purchases of put options on stocks of reinsurance companies expected to pay out billions to cover losses from the attack -- Munich Re and the AXA Group * Surges in purchases of put options on stocks of financial services companies hurt by the attack -- Merrill Lynch & Co., and Morgan Stanley and Bank of America * Huge surge in purchases of call options of stock of a weapons manufacturer expected to gain from the attack -- Raytheon here is a website with photos of building 7, with the minor fires in it.This on actually has a close up of the building, unlike ballforyou is photos, which just shows a bunch of smoke. titles to enlarge the photos. Do you still think that fires made that building collapse? There have been tons of examples of steel buildings that burned completely, and the steel frames still stood.Look at the Windsor building in Madrid! Steven Jones is a very intelligent man.He is not a conspiracy theorist.He knows all about thermite... oh and that ''super nano thermite''is thermate.nothing really fancy, just thermite with suffer added to it as a catalyst. l do read entire articles.l have been researching this stuff since 2004.It looks to me like you have only studied the debunking sites, because you bring up theories that no serious person claims. And you are getting a lot of mis-info. l saw your photo. That side of the building had some broken windows and dust on that one side. the rest of the building looks undamaged, if you follow my link. You arenot trying to tell me that those broken windows are why the steel building fell? god, next time l am in a building, l hope a window does not break or the building might collapse! l mean seriously, how did it go from a lightly-damaged-on-one-side building to that pile of rubble!?think, man.it was a controlled demolition. l know exactly what the bbc article said!my point was that the FBl has not changed their lists since they found out that the 6 hijackers are still alive!they did not even investigate it enough to get the identities of the terrorists right?and they do not bother to do anything about it now? You are assuming that l believe stuff like a missile hit the pentagon, or the flight 93 was shot down, or that there was a missile pod on the planes that hit the towers, or that aliens from outter space abducted flight 93 or something.....These are all ridiculous theories, probably invented by debunkers just so that they had a straw man to debunk, and therefore discredit the 9/11 truth movement. i know that the world trade center towers 1, 2, and 7 were destroyed in a controlled demolition.This is something that could be proven, too, if Guliani did not get rid of all of the evidence.Seems like he should have known better than to destroy evidence, since he was a former prosecutor.But steven jones is evidence shows that thermate was used.This alone should be enough to RE-INVESTIGATE 9/11!!!!! sure about your official story, what are you afraid of? -Wll you know what?you would make a good dfefense lawyer for bush, cheney and rumsfeld when thay go down for 9/11.l wish you and your clients the best of luck.You are very good at establishing doubt.But l do not doubt that the twin towers and building 7 were brought down by controlled demolition.Can you DEBUNK that?l am not saying anything about the pentagon, or any of you debunkers is favorite straw men to debunk.l am afraid the evidence is on my side. all the same, l hope bush cheney and rumsfeld burn for 9/11. You are not listening to me.just because you read on some debunking website that conspiracy theorists believe that it was a missile that hit the pentagon, or flight 93 was shot down, etc.does not mean that every person who questions 9/11 believes that stuff. Here is what is arguably the most damaging to the government is case: building 7.one minute it has minor fires, that should have been able to be put out with sprinkler system.Building 7 did not have a ''Gaping hole'' in it.Look at that picture yourself.there is broken glass and dust, which is to be expected after having some debris hit it.Are you trying to tell me that broken windows caused the building to fall?the firemen in the area where heard saying, get back! its going to collapse!then, in less than 7 seconds, it goes from a tall building with minor damage and sparatic fires over a few floors to a pile of rubble.It was carefully set up to collapse into its basement just like towers 1 & 2. After looking at your little debunking site, l found somelies of their own.They use smoke and mirrors to make the story believable, as the story by itself is not. They say that when larry silverstein said ''pull it''he was really saying to pull the firefighters out of the building. BUT THERE WERE NOT ANY FIREFIGHTERS IN THE BUILDING!Also, who says ''pull it'' when they are talking about people?would not he say, ''pull them out?''and pull it does mean a controlled demolition, another lie from the site is where they say it means ''to tie ropes to a building and pull it away from another building''This is a lie.Here is another lie:there was no sign of any explosions.THERE WERE MANY SQUIBS DURING THE COLLAPSES OF THE TOWERS AND BUILDING 7.you can watch them in ''9/11 mysteries: demolitions''. This means explosions.Just like the clouds of dust that come from volcanoes. That was just from 5 minutes of looking at that shameful website.
911 conspiracy theory is full of holes too although those films
can be quite compelling. There are just too much 'cherry picking' of facts,
interview excerpts. etc. Here is some example how they twist facts to
create dramatic 911 stories.
That BBC article you talk about. you should read the entire article
instead of just the title. Some bloggers & 911 theorists say hijackers are found alive & links to BBC article titled ‘Hijack 'suspects' alive & well.’ What they don’t say is that this BBC article is about confusion over hijackers’ true identities. It appears hijackers may have assumed someone else is IDs. Criminals using false IDs? Hard to believe? BBC article ends by saying “FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged on Thursday that the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt.” That’s why the title put quotation mark around ‘suspects’ when it says ‘suspects alive & well.’ You can read this BBC entire article here http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm You’ll notice in the middle of this BBC article titled ‘Hijack 'suspects' alive & well’ it also says in bold face ‘Mistaken Identity.’ Conspiracy gurus never even finished the entire article it appears & have reading comprehension of sixth grader. This article is used to claim that hijackers are made up/fake people in this ‘conspiracy.’ Yes, it’s sad. They took an article about mistaken identities & turned it into 911 ‘mystery.’ Yes, the BBC article is titled 'Suspects' found alive, but it is about mistaken identities which made it appear as though they were alive. So read the freaking article instead of just the title. Twin towers never fell at free fall speed as Professor Jones claims. He makes eye ball estimate & do not make actual measurements. Several have made calculations showing the towers fell close to free fall because of massive kinetic energy, but frame by frame calculation shows it does not fall at ‘free fall’ speed. You can actually see some debris falling faster than building is collapsing in some footages. Usually demolition takes almost month of gutting & preparation for much smaller buildings. Twin towers were not taken down with bombs as claim by some. http://debunking911.com Building 7 had a giant hole stretching over 10 floors & its picture exists, but conspiracy theorists probably don't want you to see since it dampens their 'demolition' theory. See the photo here. http://debunking911.com/pull.htm Conspiracy theorists do not discuss this massive structural damage, but talk about ‘pull’ quote that is very vague & arbitrary. Why would Silverstein, who is not familiar with demolition at all, use demolition slang to admit something so odd on national TV? That doesn’t make sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center 911 conspiracy theory claim Rumsfeld said flight 93 was shot down. On 9-11-01 it is Cheney who mistakenly believes 2 planes were shot down by Airforce during the attacks. Cheney have ordered to take down any hijacked planes that may be heading for a target after WTC was hit. Rumsfeld tells Cheney he knows one plane is down, but can’t confirm who brought down the plane (flight 93). This episode was explained in PBS’s Frontline: Dark Side. They had obtained actual transcript of their conversation. You can see this transcript here http://pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/view/ Cheney/Rumsfeld conversation is shown in ‘part one’ at beginning of documentary. Lot of stories about gov shooting down flight 93, missile theories.etc seem to have originated from this. Rumsfeld was in Pentagon when it was hit & helped rescue crew which was caught on video. Why would he or others order missile to hit it when they're in the building. Several light poles at near by high way were knocked down short ways from Pentagon. Did single missile swerve around in chasing after skinny light poles before hitting pentagon? Was it a big fat Tomahawk missile that is wide as commercial airliner’s wing span? Some cars were damaged too by the plane grazing over highways. http://abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 http://aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0274.shtml Many claim Pentagon had auto missile defense that could have shot down planes entering its airspace, but such project really never took full effect because of fear that civilian plane may be shot down & might pose danger to neighboring residents. Can you imagine some newly licensed pilot flying single engine Cessna into Pentagon air space getting shot down by missile or anti aircraft guns? Richard Clarke, former counter-terrorism official explained this. Ask him about it. How many times do you see planes go off course by accident? Gov officials didn’t want to endanger its own citizens for extremely unlikely scenario. Pentagon 'hole' was quite small because the plane is nose is pointed & the wall it hit was reinforced concrete wall (high rise can not have this because of weight). That is why the plane couldn't fully penetrate Pentagon wall. And if it was Tomahawk which contains over 1000lbs of military explosives that hit Pentagon, I can assure you it will leave hole bigger than 20 feet wide & also it will leave large crater on the ground which we didn't see. Some claim debunking911 websites are debunked & links to infowar website, but there they only discuss ‘pull’ comment again which is very vague & arbitrary & they do not discuss other countless flaws in 911 conspiracy theory. They do not explain the fact that many experts have explained ‘molten metals’ & several structural engineers & experts have disputed Steve Jones’s (physicist & not structural engineer) theory. Debunking911 websites were never debunked, because 911 theorists never explained why things in debunking911 websites are wrong. There are just too many odd assumptions in these 911 theories. 911 theorists do engage in what we now call ‘cherry picking of information’ in order to complete their picture of reality. More Rumsfeld claims about Pentagon, Flight 93.. Rumsfeld doesn't exactly say missile is what hit Pentagon. He says enemies have weapons, missiles to hit Pentagon. Now, read carefully. ''enemies with weapons & missile to damage this building'' does not mean ''missile have damaged this building.'' He meant enemies have means to attack Pentagon. Read entire interview here. http://defenselink.mil/Transcripts/Transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=3845. In that same interview people refer to. Rumsfeld also says that he. ''Asked a person who'd seen it, & he told me that a plane had flown into it. I had been aware of a plane going into the World Trade Center, & I saw people on the grass, & we just, we tried to put them in stretchers & then move them out across the grass towards the road & lifted them over a jersey wall so the people on that side could stick them into the ambulances. '' (Dondald Rumsfeld) He says this before he says ''we're talking about enemies with weapons & missile.etc'' Now, why in the hec would he ask a person what hit Pentagon if he knows it is missile? He is told that a plane had struck Pentagon by a person. But why doesn't he make immediate correction if that is not true? And that Flight 93/Rumsfeld video people link to. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=. Listen to his entire comment. He says. ''if you will imagine kind of world we would face.'' Little later. ''.people who did the bombing in Spain or people who attacked the US & NY & shot down a plane over Pennsylvania, attacked Pentagon.'' (Donald Rumsfeld) I will translate. He says that same people who bombed trains in Spain & attacked NYC shot down plane over Pennsylvania. Clearly, he meant to say terrorists taking down Flight 93 over Pennsylvania, but mistakenly says terrorists 'shot it down.' Not the US, the terrorists. He clearly says terrorists shot it down. But you can see why he might have said mistakenly said terrorists shot it down instead of crashing it to the ground. I could have made that kind of mistake. Go figure, 'terrorists taking down plane' vs 'terrorists shooting down plane.' Hard to switch between those two? Now, this is FOR sure. He does NOT say the US fighter jet shot down flight 93. He says people who bombed trains in Spain & attacked NYC did it. 9/11 'inside job' theories have more holes than official one. I am guessing you also believe claims made by weight loss pills. Well the scientists say it works, so you believe them too? You still don't get it. Lot of claims you make are taken way out of context. It is like someone says 'I am hungry enough to eat a horse' & you bring a horse. At least finish reading that BBC article & other article you refer to instead of just extracting quick phrase & sentences. I read & watched many 9/11 inside job stuff. I didn't simply label ur claims lie. I showed why ur claims are misleading & how things are taken out of context. I read entire articles instead of just glancing at titles & taking quick phrases out of it. Plus, many did dispute molten metals, thermites.etc. Steve Jones once responded by saying 'oh but there could be super state of the art nano thermites.' Please. http://debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm Building 7 is 10 story gash. http://debunking911.com/pull.htm Also witnesses reported seeing building form large bulge on its side, & building basically contorting out of shape when the decision was made to evacuate.
The truth hurts. And some people are so lazy, that it is just
easier to believe what the government says.than to spend time seeking out
the truth for themselves.
As the saying goes..Truth is stranger than fiction. Oh, that reminds me of
one. Did you ever see the movie The Abyss? In it, there is a scene where
this diver is going to go down far enough where his oxygen will run out.
So.they make him inhale this green gooey gel stuff into his lungs. That stuff allows one to actually breathe the oxygen that is in the water. I thought that was so cool...then I learned that the US Navy has it! And uses it. It IS for real. I thought that was so interesting. Something that seemed too wild to ever be true..actually is. So.why can not some people believe that 9-11 was an inside job?? I guess they just don't have an inquiring mind like some of us.
stop knocking yourself out. Bin Laden admitted that his boys
hit the World T.S. buildings. I saw an interesting engineering
documentary on why the buildings collapsed and your theory about fire
temperature and so on is all wrong. There was no conspiracy. The Muslims
did the job and they all died. What about the fourth plane that crashed
in Penna? It had Muslim terrorists aboard. Plug the holes in your story
before pointing at everyone else.
I saw the second Plane go in to the WTC from across the river &
Lost my Uncle PAPD in the attack. I saw enough to realize it was real.
Anyone can get sucker punched or assassinated. Why don't you learn the
truth? Steel does melt even in common apartment fires. I have a Picture
of a steel I beam that is twisted like a pretzel from a 3 story Brick
apartment building fire. The WTC was designed to come down when it has
out lived it is use & had ''planned Obsolescence'' designed in. Please stop lying to yourself.
I think we've been programmed to believe, but not all of us do.
At least some of us still have minds that we can use.
I don't know about melting temperatures, physics, & all, but I do know
that the muslim broadcasts claimed responsibility.
Open borders? That is a problem. I don't think there is much stopping
anyone from walking right in from either the North or the South. If this were a war on terrorists, I would think it would have been more directed at the terrorists, & not whole countries. Just my opinion, I guess. What is getting at me now is the sounds being made about Iran.it is almost like they're trying to make a case for an attack on them. This one thing I do know-whether we like it or not, this is a religious war, declared by Bin Laden on the West, & on Christianity. And seeing how THAT religion doesn't forgive, this will last forever. Remember, the attack in Spain was because of what happened there 500 years ago. They pull anything up as a reason to attack us ''infidels.''
Unfortunately the American people, originally a proud &
independent self-reliant people, have been gradually conditioned to trust
& obey authority.
The nation which should stand upright & never grovel or beg has been
taught that you should trust & obey authority.
Instead of a National Day of Reason, somebody gave us a National Day of Prayer. Get down on ur knees, you slave, & ask massah to rescue you; this plantation is UNDER him. Trust us, we're from the government, we're here to help. Trust & obey, For there is no other way, To be happy in Jesus, But to trust & obey.
I am sure that David copperfield made them dissappear, just
like he made the statue of liberty disappear...sheeezzz
I've got a question. What authority told you these things that
you believe. Have you even seen the WTC? If not, then how do you know
they were even there? How do you know the entire thing wasn't some big
fib just to confuse you?
This may shock you, but ramming a plane with a building tends to kill the
people in the plane. All of the hijackers are dead. The melting point of steel..Tell me, have you ever seen a car crash? Did the steel melt & then break? Are you familiar the the term ''force'' & the impact of applied ''force'' that a large jet would have on steel coming in at a high velocity? Not a conspiracy theorist...right.... I've got a question. Do you know what a conspiracy is?
We have. Thanks for offering your opinion.
PS; by definition you are a conspiracy theorist.
Some info for you here:
http://popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=6&c=y
Blindly trust the government? Oh, please. And exactly how do
you think we 'blind' Americans set about to discover the truth? Such
sarcastic and incendiary remarks.
You could have put your question out here in much better format.
puff puff pass. Why do you people think you would still be
alive if what you are saying is true?
and the American people have at their ready all the
capabilities to investigate such an incident?...NOT!!!!!!
By gum, you're right! I am going to buy a plane ticket to New
York right now and start my own investigation of 9/11.
(I've heard that Muslims can suspend the laws of physics, but only if
they're Sufis.)
Most of the American sheeple can not see beyond their own
noses.
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